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【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフAlright, let's be spirited! (4) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 00時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ#1. If we can use it, I want to use. However, our village's time zone is quite different, so the leader system may be difficult. But, if I say my request, a sympathizer come out today and they will be the leader. Because, we can use one "trap" and if the leader decide the target of divination, they can aim for the trap when they want. (5) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 00時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ#1. And, I think we should unify the target of vote. Because we can use the "vote CO". If we don't know who will be executed until the next day, we can't do "escape CO" and the guard may protect the person who will die. It's useless. Diviner may divine the person who will die. It's useless too. (6) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 00時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフWe should talk more than prologue! If you rarely say something, other players can't judge whether or not you are a human! If you rarely talk, your opinion will not help other players to think! Please please please talk more often! I don't want to do "to execute a quiet person" preferably, but if we need, I will do. (7) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 01時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフOur time zone is quite different, so when you can, you should advance your reasoning further! It is highly probable that we often can't directly discuss on a real-time basis. We should leave your reasoning which help other players think, if you can. (9) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 01時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ#2. Today. Because after we narrow down the amount of ASH players, I want them to divine ash today. The target of attack today is サイモン and there aren't execution today, so if they come out today, they absolutely will not die tonight. Therefore, if we wait their CO until tomorrow, it's no merit, I think. Because we can't narrow down ash today. (12) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 01時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ@カルヴィン (14) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 01時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>13 (15) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 01時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>17 (19) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 02時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>11>>18 (22) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 02時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>20 (23) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 02時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ#2. The first time vote CO. Because if they are attacked by the second times attack, at least they can come out. If they CO at day 2, there are many ability users in public at day 2. Then, the guard can't know who they should protect. If they CO at day 3, the second times attack already have been done by wolves. Then, if only one medium come out at day 3, we still have a tinge of uneasiness about "The person who was attacked by the second times attack may be a true medium". If they CO by the first vote, the guard don't have to protect medium because they didn't come out yet. And if they die, they can come out. (25) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 03時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ#2.初回投票CO。2回目の襲撃で死んでも、少なくともCOは出来るから。もし二日目にCOしたら、能力者が表に出すぎて、守護者は誰を護衛すべきか分からない。3日目にCOしたら、2回目の襲撃はすでに行われてる。そうなると、3日目に一人だけCOしたとしても、「2回目の襲撃で死んだ人が本物だったかも」という不安を抱える事になる。初回投票でCOしたら、守護者は、霊能者はまだCOしてないから護衛しなくて良いし、仮に死んだとしても、COできる。 (26) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 03時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>30>>31 (51) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 12時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>32 (60) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 17時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>35 (61) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 17時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>36 yep. Let's enjoy. We don't have to be hasty. Because day 1 is about 72 hours. (62) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 17時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>38 I think so, too. We have to discuss #1 and #2 first. (63) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 17時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>40 I think the partner of a sympathizer is good. In a latter half, I think we don't need a leader. (64) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 17時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>45 Well, when do you want diviner to come out? If they don't come out, we can't know the result of their judgement. Of course, we have some means to know the result without their CO. For example, we request that diviner will divine Mr. X and if the result is black, diviner will come out. Then, if they don't come out, we can know Mr. X is a human. (65) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 17時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>50 I see, but there are some advantages. If a leader is a sympathizer and someone try to execute their partner without knowing it, the leader can change the target without the partner's escape CO. We can keep a trap. In addition, if the leader decide the target of divination, they can aim for the trap when they want. Of course, I think they should decide the target in accordance with the general will of the people. I mean...I want they to make the best use of knowing their partner. (66) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 18時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>55 Yes! I think so, too. Probably, they don't attack the leader soon. Because I think it is important for the wolves to attack a diviner, a medium or a guard as soon as possible. (67) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 18時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>57 Let's speak leisurely (^^)b (68) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 18時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>70 OK. To tell the truth, if there isn't a guard or the guard don't protect a sympathizer, they can eat a sympathizer easily at any time. In werewolf, we call it "preserved food". Even if they neglect a sympathizer, the sympathizer can't pass any judgement to narrow down the amount of ASH players. But if they neglect a diviner, the diviner gradually can narrow down the ASH. They can do "to keep the amount of ash players" later, but if they attack a sympathizer soon, other ability users can survive. Don't you think that is disadvantage for wolves? I don't think that only "to keep the amount of ash players in a hurry" is advantage for wolves. And they can do it later. I give the wolves a hint too much? In addition, a fox is not always in ash. (103) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>70 OK。正直守護者が居ないか護衛が無ければ鳴なんて何時でも喰える。人狼ではこういうの「お弁当」って言うんだよね。鳴を放置しても、鳴が判定出して灰を狭めてくるような事は無いけど、占を放置したら徐々に判定が増えていくよね。灰枠を維持するのは後でも出来るけど、鳴すぐに喰ったら能力者長生きするよね。それ狼にとって不利だと思わない?急いで灰枠を維持する事だけが狼にとっての利益とは思わないよ。しかもそれは後でも出来る。狼にヒント与えすぎ?それから狐は灰に居るとは限らないよね。 (104) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>70 If wolves are afraid of the failure of attack, they would also think that there is a possibility which a guard protect the leader. Because only leader would be a certain white. (105) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフI think we should not often talk about the target of protection, because we will give the wolves a hint. It's according to the guard's ability. (106) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフNow, the people who have the most information are sympathizers. They know one human. The others don't know any human without themselves. I want them to make the best use of that information and lead our discussion. I think sympathizers are stars in the initial stages of a game. (107) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフBut all players have various reasons. For example, "busy". And they can many tactics, so I think they are thinking what strategy they should use. If 2 sympathizers' time zone is quite different, they can't talk well. (108) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフA sympathizer can do "shift CO". Even if you can't identify the true diviner, you can do "shift CO" and will be able to become the leader. (109) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフAs it is, our discuss will not develop, I think. I wanted to ask more opinions, but I think we should develop our discuss by and by. We have to think our strategy in compliance with the number of CO. I will come out. (111) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 12時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>92 If you really think that is "the worst", why don't you want medium to come out until the second times attack? You said "If someone die and we don't know what role he/she is, then a lunatic and a wolf can easily pretend to be the role. In my opinion, it's 'the last situation' I want to be in." (113) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 12時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>92 もし本気でそれが「最悪」だと思ってるなら、どうして霊能者に2度目の襲撃までにCOを求めないの?それからこう言ってるよね。「もし誰かが死んで、その人の役職も分からなければ、狂人や狼は簡単にその役職のふりがでてきしまいます。僕としては、それが"最悪"の状況だと思うんです」これは狼がリーダーを襲わない時の話ですよね。そして「これが最悪」だと言ってる。でも「そうですね、これは狼がリーダーを狙うだろうという考えに基いてます。でも狼がそうしなかった場合は私たちはもっと得をするでしょう」これは「狼がリーダーを襲撃しなかったら、私達はもっと得をする」という意味でしょ?矛盾してない? (114) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 12時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフThis village is a little little little hotly contested game. That's ok(*´∀`*) (116) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 12時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>117 What do you think about ">>114"? (118) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 12時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>120 I see. What do you think about "what his said is inconsistent"? Do you agree or disagree with me? (123) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 14時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>122 Well...That's right. If I am a wolf, I can't do "curse". If there are 2 diviners, you can judge me by aiming to divine a fox. In short, "alternate DV". (124) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 14時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>125 Now, I don't care whether we make a leader or not. Because sympathizers have their reason. If they are very busy in real life, it can't be helped. But if they can be, I want them to be a leader. (126) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 14時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ@ドナルド (127) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 15時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>128 What kind of a mistake of wording do you think? What he wanted to say do you think? (129) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 15時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフI don't know why セシル think that he "merely" made a slip of the tongue. Why do you think so? I read his post well, but I don't know. "In point of fact, what he wanted to say" do you think? (130) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 15時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ@カルヴィン (131) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 15時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフTo tell the truth, I think we played in too earnest. Therefore, it's difficult for beginners to join our discuss. Let's be getting carried away! (133) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 18時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフアシモフ is a name of men. So I should use more a word used by men. Hahaha! Let's get high.((( ≧∀≦))) (134) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 18時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフYeah! ハナ is mine! I will win her heart! It's not related to the difference between rat and human. (135) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 18時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフhttp://www.youtube.com... (136) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 18時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>確実に占い師を護衛するだろうと想定して話をしてます (141) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 19時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>I suppose a diviner come out and a guard protect her. (147) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 19時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>Nevertheless アシモフ said it's important for a special role to live, she come out without village's conclusion. I have a feeling of wrongness. (148) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 19時頃 |
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