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【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>55 Yes! I think so, too. Probably, they don't attack the leader soon. Because I think it is important for the wolves to attack a diviner, a medium or a guard as soon as possible. (67) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 18時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>57 Let's speak leisurely (^^)b (68) Yubo 2013/02/21(Thu) 18時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>70 OK. To tell the truth, if there isn't a guard or the guard don't protect a sympathizer, they can eat a sympathizer easily at any time. In werewolf, we call it "preserved food". Even if they neglect a sympathizer, the sympathizer can't pass any judgement to narrow down the amount of ASH players. But if they neglect a diviner, the diviner gradually can narrow down the ASH. They can do "to keep the amount of ash players" later, but if they attack a sympathizer soon, other ability users can survive. Don't you think that is disadvantage for wolves? I don't think that only "to keep the amount of ash players in a hurry" is advantage for wolves. And they can do it later. I give the wolves a hint too much? In addition, a fox is not always in ash. (103) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>70 OK。正直守護者が居ないか護衛が無ければ鳴なんて何時でも喰える。人狼ではこういうの「お弁当」って言うんだよね。鳴を放置しても、鳴が判定出して灰を狭めてくるような事は無いけど、占を放置したら徐々に判定が増えていくよね。灰枠を維持するのは後でも出来るけど、鳴すぐに喰ったら能力者長生きするよね。それ狼にとって不利だと思わない?急いで灰枠を維持する事だけが狼にとっての利益とは思わないよ。しかもそれは後でも出来る。狼にヒント与えすぎ?それから狐は灰に居るとは限らないよね。 (104) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時頃 |
【独】 お散歩隊長 アシモフI think カルヴィン is a nice player. He ask what he can't understand honestly. (-19) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>70 If wolves are afraid of the failure of attack, they would also think that there is a possibility which a guard protect the leader. Because only leader would be a certain white. (105) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフI think we should not often talk about the target of protection, because we will give the wolves a hint. It's according to the guard's ability. (106) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフNow, the people who have the most information are sympathizers. They know one human. The others don't know any human without themselves. I want them to make the best use of that information and lead our discussion. I think sympathizers are stars in the initial stages of a game. (107) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフBut all players have various reasons. For example, "busy". And they can many tactics, so I think they are thinking what strategy they should use. If 2 sympathizers' time zone is quite different, they can't talk well. (108) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフA sympathizer can do "shift CO". Even if you can't identify the true diviner, you can do "shift CO" and will be able to become the leader. (109) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時半頃 |
【独】 お散歩隊長 アシモフDo you say "You give the villagers a hint too much"? Well...it's right. Which side do you want to help? To tell the truth, I help the villagers because they endeavor to discuss as beginner. But I can't yield the palm of victory. (-20) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 11時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフAs it is, our discuss will not develop, I think. I wanted to ask more opinions, but I think we should develop our discuss by and by. We have to think our strategy in compliance with the number of CO. I will come out. (111) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 12時頃 |
【独】 お散歩隊長 アシモフThe villagers' side should propose that all players do "non DIVINER declaration" now. But I think most people can't think up that. It's advantage for us. (-21) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 12時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>92 If you really think that is "the worst", why don't you want medium to come out until the second times attack? You said "If someone die and we don't know what role he/she is, then a lunatic and a wolf can easily pretend to be the role. In my opinion, it's 'the last situation' I want to be in." (113) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 12時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>92 もし本気でそれが「最悪」だと思ってるなら、どうして霊能者に2度目の襲撃までにCOを求めないの?それからこう言ってるよね。「もし誰かが死んで、その人の役職も分からなければ、狂人や狼は簡単にその役職のふりがでてきしまいます。僕としては、それが"最悪"の状況だと思うんです」これは狼がリーダーを襲わない時の話ですよね。そして「これが最悪」だと言ってる。でも「そうですね、これは狼がリーダーを狙うだろうという考えに基いてます。でも狼がそうしなかった場合は私たちはもっと得をするでしょう」これは「狼がリーダーを襲撃しなかったら、私達はもっと得をする」という意味でしょ?矛盾してない? (114) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 12時半頃 |
【独】 お散歩隊長 アシモフWell, what does he answer? He might speak with emotion. I want to see a response. (-26) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 12時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフThis village is a little little little hotly contested game. That's ok(*´∀`*) (116) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 12時半頃 |
【独】 お散歩隊長 アシモフIf there isn't at least a wolf among カルヴィン, ホレーショー and ペラジー, we may lose. (-27) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 12時半頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>117 What do you think about ">>114"? (118) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 12時半頃 |
【独】 お散歩隊長 アシモフWhether or not does ペラジー take my opinion on? (-28) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 13時頃 |
【独】 お散歩隊長 アシモフペラジー might be a wolf. Does He want to sow the seeds of strife? (-29) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 13時頃 |
【独】 お散歩隊長 アシモフTo sow the seeds of strife is lunatic's job. (-30) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 13時頃 |
【独】 お散歩隊長 アシモフI think カルヴィン is a key person. Whether カルヴィン is a wolf decides the destiny of this village. Do everyone notice that? That is the crucial in the initial stages of a game. (-31) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 14時頃 |
【独】 お散歩隊長 アシモフAnd if I miss guessing his true colors, we might lose. (-32) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 14時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>120 I see. What do you think about "what his said is inconsistent"? Do you agree or disagree with me? (123) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 14時頃 |
【人】 お散歩隊長 アシモフ>>122 Well...That's right. If I am a wolf, I can't do "curse". If there are 2 diviners, you can judge me by aiming to divine a fox. In short, "alternate DV". (124) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 14時半頃 |
【独】 お散歩隊長 アシモフペラジー don't react to my CO. He may think whether or not should he impersonate. He might be wolfish. But if he come out later, most people would not believe him. Does he understand that? (-33) Yubo 2013/02/22(Fri) 14時半頃 |
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